Home for defensive PVP play-style player?
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You could always have an alt in Signal Cartel and try it out. Only your Signal character has to align with the Credo. Your other characters can continue to PvP to your heart's content.
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@Thrice-Hapus The the Signal char can not help to "find victims" or act as "bait" I think.
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Maybe if I flew an ECM bird with no turrets, that would be compatible with the credo. I love me some ECM and would be a nice change of play style to use it to help other escape rather than to blow up targets
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Flying out with the intent to ECM is not really in the spirit of the Credo.
Being ready to ECM in case you are jumped is.Understanding this difference is the first step on the path of the Credo.
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Well, ECM without weaponry is a pretty defensively-oriented posture serving as a means of escape, especially when no one else is there to take advantage of a jammed opponent. I thought I had read about SC fleets with ECMs and snowball launchers.
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The issue is not what you fit on whatever ship you fly. The issue is why you fly it. It is the why that matters most.
The Credo is a difficult thing to follow. It is that way for a reason. It's a very narrow path for Signaleers to follow. We do not judge anyone for the way they choose to play, nor do we support any one over another. We do not hold grudges against those who choose to destroy us and/or thwart what we choose to do. That is their right, just as it is our right to do what we do.
We choose that path on our own and therefore are bound by it. It is not meant for everyone, and that is fine.
There has been plenty of discussions about what sort of behavior is Credo-compliant, and that is just in the past 10 months that I have been in Signal Cartel. One thing holds true in every circumstance: if there is any question about any action or behavior that could put our reputation of neutrality to all above all, then that action of behavior should not and must not be done as Signaleers.
I personally love the idea of a defensive mercenary corp for explorers and new players... I happen to have a PVP-oriented alt languishing in Jita on a bender. Perhaps someday they could be involved in something like that. And this is a very interesting discussion to be sure, and I understand and appreciate your intent. But I am sorry, I believe the things that you are proposing are being proposed as ways to circumvent the Credo, so they likely would not supported within Signal Cartel.
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The Credo forbids our members from flying in PvP-intent fleets. If your goal is PvP, then our members may not fleet with nor collaborate with you. If they are observed doing so by a third party and reported for suspicious behavior (this happens a lot and I always follow up), it can (and often does) go badly for them. I have zero compunctions about kicking people out of Signal Cartel when evidence shows they have violated our Credo. Ignorance of the Credo is no defense, as everyone is expected to be well informed about this foundation of our corp and culture.
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It's intriguing to see that this has been discussed before intensely and been debated. I read the Credo but I didn't see how DEEPLY the meaning behind it was adhered to.
You guys really are like the Red Cross of Eve. Maybe my PVP main might not be a great fit (who knows), but my Blockade Runner/trader alt might be of some use to seed caches.
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Guest said in Home for defensive PVP play-style player?:
It's intriguing to see that this has been discussed before intensely and been debated. I read the Credo but I didn't see how DEEPLY the meaning behind it was adhered to.
You guys really are like the Red Cross of Eve. Maybe my PVP main might not be a great fit (who knows), but my Blockade Runner/trader alt might be of some use to seed caches.
I like that line of thinking!
Also, "You guys really are like the Red Cross of Eve." Can we quote you on that?
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Hehe, by all means.
